Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 5:32 PM
For God's Sake, There's Still Buses.....
Here is what I have gathered:
A big hurricane was coming.....The governor needed help to create a mass exodus and keep the people of Louisiana safe and to clean up afterwards. She asked for federal assistance. The president answered her call with a resounding, "Yes." I watched for five days as people dropped dead from the lack of that promised assistance. I realize it's easier to believe the local government failed. It makes it less threatening to us. Surely our local government wouldn't make the same mistakes. If they depended on the Feds stepping in and aiding as per previous agreement, then yes they would. That is why we must demand accountability. Many have challenged how the governor laid out this plan. That somehow, she did not want to relinquish control to the federal government. Feel free to view the letter to the president on August 27, and the president's response (here).
Now, I'd like to address the buses.
How in the world do you coordinate a bus-driver for every bus, fix broken ones, and commandeer those that have not been made part of the federal evacuation plan in the middle of a disaster you've been left to take care of by yourself? You were promised help, you followed the Federal Action Plan For A Large-Scale Natural Disaster while you waited, and you were left to hang out to dry (pun intended). What many don't seem to realize, is once the president initialized federal relief, the entire plan changed. It's amazing how grown adults act when they are asked to question leadership. Remember, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." -Thomas Jefferson
At least the pres. is finally saying, "The buck stops here." That's somewhat reassuring as an american (even if it is for PR's sake). It's just a little too late, but I guess better than nothing at all.
Joe Powell said...
One major point Hobbs and the neo-cons ignore -- there were NO DRIVERS. They had all been evacuated!!! Mayor Nagin and most others thought evacuees would be safe for 36 to 48 hours in the Superdome and by then help would arrive, but none did. And no one thought the Storm would damage the dome.
Hobbs the Lobbyist ignores that a bus can't go anywhere without drivers. Duh.
Mountain Girl said...
red molly said...
Good post Mountain Girl. My question about the buses is where would these 20,000 people go if they had been able to logistically move that many people out of the city? Did the federal government have a plan to house these people? did the federal government open up any military bases for these people? No, the answer is the Federal Government didn't do jack. And what about the 80,000 to 100,000 that would still be left in the city? how were they supposed to be evacuated? Where the buses supposed to do drop offs and then turn around and pick up another group of 20,000 people? I don't think so since traffic was at a crawl and it took many people 4 hours to get to Baton Rouge. Sorry to vent but like yourself I am I sick and tired of hearing about the buses.
Mountain Girl said...
Jason Coleman said...
The bus driver question is addressed in the evacuation plan.
Additionally, there are plenty of people available to drive the buses, they were standing all around the superdome that Nagin didn't bother to open up, leaving it to the National Guard to leave their posts preparing the city to rush to the superdome to handle the people that had gathered there.
Any person of suitable health could have been given the keys to a bus and driven it out of town. Hell, an 18 year old kid drove one to Houston. If you think you can't drive a bus, I've got news for you, YOU CAN, especially when the alternative is drowning and death in a Category 5 hurricane.
Even more telling is that driving the city and school buses out was part of the EVACUATION PLAN FOR THE CITY, if Nagin let the bus drivers go, then he further violated the plan, did he not???
I'd posit that Mountain Girl herself has the capabilities to drive a bus down the highway at 45 miles per hour.
As for where to go, that's BS, Lake Charles, Houston, Alexandria, Shreveport and almost every point northwest of the city of New Orleans knew that people were heading their way when the evacuation plan was announced. Why? Because the New Orleans evacuation plan was public knowledge, the mayors of Lake Charles and Alexandria actually EXPECTED buses that never came.
Keep on dreaming lefties, Nagin failed New Orleans first, starting a cascade that was compounded by Blanco and which disrupted the LA National Guard, FEMA and the entire Federal response. Bush has taken the lead and accepted responsibility for everything, whether it's his fault or not, I find it funny that those charged with being First Responders and who also FAILED MISERABLY at that still can't take any responsibility whatso ever.
Where's all that food and water you were supposed to stockpile with Homeland Security money Mayor Nagin???
Joe Powell said...
Keep the spin, rolling, Jason.
Since both Gov Blanco and Mayor Nagin notified the Feds on Aug. 27th a Federal Emergency was in effect, which Pres. Bush signed that same day -- the logistics of moving evacuees became a Fed responsibility while the Hurricane was still in the Gulf.
Fed assistance was to be on the scene by Monday morning, according to THEIR plan.
Yes, Jason, let's be sure to blame anyone who doesn't hold your political belief system. That's so constructive.
Be sure to blame the media, too. Why not use the 'prayer in school' issue too. Oh and remember to mention that it was also God's retribution.
Mountain Girl said...
Why were there no drivers? Whose responsibility was that? When should the buses have been used?
You a teacher aren't you? If you can look past your denial you should be able to see the reality.
You are not objective. If you were you could see what happened and why it happened. I saw your post on Hobbs. Weak, flawed, and biased.
It doesn't matter who is supposed to plan what, at the end of the day, he's the pResident (ugh), and he should have made the evacuation happen, even if he had to drive the lead bus himself. Instead, where was he? Tugging at roots and trunks.
FEMA was able to provide 100 buses, and given the fact that Chimpy had access to the entire US Government, I'm sure he could have found another 150 drivers from somewhere.
Once the Governess decided that this was all too much for her, Chimpy should have stepped gingerly around her in those pointy thigh highs of his and gotten the job done. He could have federalized the guard, he could have done a lot of things that he probably would have been more inclined to do if it weren't for the fact that they were darkies.
I'm not gay, but I have a sneaky suspicion that my boyfriend might be.
I just can't believe somebody finally had the nerve to call Hobbs out for what he is a mediocre spin-hack merely repeating talking points from the RNC, TN GOP and O'Reilly.
Keep up the good work!
Whew... that said (I have to kiss up a little for my first post on your site), did you see this?
So, Bush cronies are all misteriously making a profit off of Katrina? (The daily show made a quick refernce to this at one point saying something like, "gues who got the no-bid contract to rebuild the crescent city? Say it with me, 'Haliburton'")
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